masterji
08-09 09:17 PM
It seems people who revoked AC21 during pre-GC stage, can continue to change employers in the post-GC phase. The confusion is for the people who stayed with their employers throughout the GC process. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Higcoptimist
04-01 07:31 PM
Hi,
Sent the two faxes.
My thanks to the core group and active members, working tirelessly towards our common goal.
Cheers
Sent the two faxes.
My thanks to the core group and active members, working tirelessly towards our common goal.
Cheers
kumar1
07-19 10:12 AM
This is what you can do - Both in Mumbai and in Delhi, you have USCIS approved doctors who help people going through CP. In other words those who choose to go through emp based CP or family based Green Card which US embassy issues, go through Indian hospitals in Mumbai and Delhi. I think Gangaram in Mumbai has this facility. Ask your wife to get it done from there. Do not wait till the last moment, as someone pointed out, a slight delay in flight could............
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Jimi_Hendrix
12-30 01:08 PM
Andy,
Did you mean September 2005 bulletin?
Now I assume there are 10,650 visas per country available from October 1, 2006; why the hell have priority dates for EB3 India moved by only 3 weeks? This is absolutely ridiculous.
Did you mean September 2005 bulletin?
Now I assume there are 10,650 visas per country available from October 1, 2006; why the hell have priority dates for EB3 India moved by only 3 weeks? This is absolutely ridiculous.
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perm2gc
05-22 04:14 PM
Very sad to see this coming from the Core Member...Are we losing hope here, is that the game plan are we looking after putting tremondous effort for all these years?
Reality is always hard to take :D
Reality is always hard to take :D
eb3retro
07-08 06:16 PM
good one Ron Hira..this guy for sure is an odd ball leaching around here trying to create a controversy...
i figured u won't have a clue that this is a quote form the founding father of The United States of America - Ben Franklin.
hey.... how would you know?
i figured u won't have a clue that this is a quote form the founding father of The United States of America - Ben Franklin.
hey.... how would you know?
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rb_248
05-22 04:45 PM
This is the worst bill ever. 1987 amnesty bill atleast had a flawless game plan when it was passed. This one will not pass. If it passes, I am going back to India. At least in India polititions are not brainless, they are only corrupt. I choose to go back to India if this bill passes. And if dubya signs this bill, he will be the Tuglaq (most foolish Indian emperor ever) of USA.
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optimystic
10-29 09:08 PM
Thanks for the good luck . I really need it !
I am hoping that it would be something simple as well.
- I am guessing it might be about employment verification (since its been a long time),
OR
- Current job description (probably they want to make sure I am in the same job role or going to be in the same job role for which GC was applied) . Which is more or less the case. My law-firm/company did a good job of declaring a generic (still O*net compliant) job title/description which luckily encompasses the range of roles (compliant with the job description) I have been doing over the last 8 years. And if required, at this point, I am at a stage where I am willing to take a demotion or something if required to work on the job role that matches the GC temporarily, if thats what it takes. And I am sure my company will fully support me. There is no dearth of requirement for fresh coders/developers at our team/company. They would probably be happy to oblige :D . But I hope it doesn't come to that. I think there is some leniency allowed in the growth of job scope/promotion etc over the course of years it takes to get the GC. Gurus any comments ?
OR
- some clarification about overall H1B status or something across all these years (although I know for sure my H1B status, I-94 etc has been perfectly clean so far)
OR
- Medical checkups may have expired and they need new ones? (my medical reports are from June 2007)
OR
- Ability to pay ! I don't think this would be the case. My company is a well reputed/respected Fortune 50 company. So hopefully USCIS IOs are also aware that my company would not have ability to pay issues! But who knows, in these economic crisis, they probably doubt every company !
OR
- Questions about Mergers/aquisitions/layoff announcements at my company?? I don't think these events by themselves matter/affect my I-485 case after the I-140 stage. My lawyer had clarified to the same effect. But they might trigger a request for employement verification.
What could be other reasons that you guys can think off?
Update:
It turned out to be request for latest employment verification letter.
Here are the words quoted from the RFE letter
You must submit a currently dated letter from your intended permanent employer, describing your present job duties and position in the organization, your proffered position (if different from your current one), the date you began employment and the offered salary or wage. This letter should be in the original and signed by an executive or officer of the organization who is authorized to make or confirm an offer of permanent employment. The letter must also indicate whether the terms and conditions of your employment-based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist.
So, couple of questions to the gurus.
a) What happens if current job title & duties are different from that of the proffered position? I am with the same employer since the beginning. How much of an allowance/leeway is given for growth of job role/scope?
b) What happens if there has been around $25k increase in pay from that mentioned for the proffered position? Is that an issue?
I am hoping that it would be something simple as well.
- I am guessing it might be about employment verification (since its been a long time),
OR
- Current job description (probably they want to make sure I am in the same job role or going to be in the same job role for which GC was applied) . Which is more or less the case. My law-firm/company did a good job of declaring a generic (still O*net compliant) job title/description which luckily encompasses the range of roles (compliant with the job description) I have been doing over the last 8 years. And if required, at this point, I am at a stage where I am willing to take a demotion or something if required to work on the job role that matches the GC temporarily, if thats what it takes. And I am sure my company will fully support me. There is no dearth of requirement for fresh coders/developers at our team/company. They would probably be happy to oblige :D . But I hope it doesn't come to that. I think there is some leniency allowed in the growth of job scope/promotion etc over the course of years it takes to get the GC. Gurus any comments ?
OR
- some clarification about overall H1B status or something across all these years (although I know for sure my H1B status, I-94 etc has been perfectly clean so far)
OR
- Medical checkups may have expired and they need new ones? (my medical reports are from June 2007)
OR
- Ability to pay ! I don't think this would be the case. My company is a well reputed/respected Fortune 50 company. So hopefully USCIS IOs are also aware that my company would not have ability to pay issues! But who knows, in these economic crisis, they probably doubt every company !
OR
- Questions about Mergers/aquisitions/layoff announcements at my company?? I don't think these events by themselves matter/affect my I-485 case after the I-140 stage. My lawyer had clarified to the same effect. But they might trigger a request for employement verification.
What could be other reasons that you guys can think off?
Update:
It turned out to be request for latest employment verification letter.
Here are the words quoted from the RFE letter
You must submit a currently dated letter from your intended permanent employer, describing your present job duties and position in the organization, your proffered position (if different from your current one), the date you began employment and the offered salary or wage. This letter should be in the original and signed by an executive or officer of the organization who is authorized to make or confirm an offer of permanent employment. The letter must also indicate whether the terms and conditions of your employment-based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist.
So, couple of questions to the gurus.
a) What happens if current job title & duties are different from that of the proffered position? I am with the same employer since the beginning. How much of an allowance/leeway is given for growth of job role/scope?
b) What happens if there has been around $25k increase in pay from that mentioned for the proffered position? Is that an issue?
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another one
07-10 10:10 AM
You can sue this guy successfully there is no doubt, but you should have guts to do.
Most people just have guts to rant here. They won't take flowers to USCIS office or even put some feedback comments on CNN website. Sad but true.
Most people just have guts to rant here. They won't take flowers to USCIS office or even put some feedback comments on CNN website. Sad but true.
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raysaikat
07-19 06:20 PM
Now my hunch is that risk no. 1 is a low risk. Either the dates won't retrogress again, or even if they do, they will move forward in October again. So we can live with that.
Risk no. 2 is a bigger risk. But can USCIS take a decision on my I-485 petition so quickly. I don't think so. But if it does, then we lovers will be torn apart.
And lastly, has anybody ever heard of "Follow to join" procedure? What exactly is it and can we utilize it to our benefit?
If your GC is approved before your wife can enter US and apply for I-485, then she can do "following to join" through consular processing. The apparent wisdom seems to be that the application has to be done quite quickly, but I had read in one website that there is no time limit to apply (it is possible that the law changed in that regard; you need to seek a competent lawyer's advice and check the current rules). I also read that visa numbers are not required for following to join; i.e., she can get GC even if PD retrogrades. Again, that could be a outdated law, or perhaps that wording was for the "following to join" procedure for the spouses of US citizens. In any case, if you act quickly and properly, there is not much to worry about not being able to get your wife into US after your GC.
Risk no. 2 is a bigger risk. But can USCIS take a decision on my I-485 petition so quickly. I don't think so. But if it does, then we lovers will be torn apart.
And lastly, has anybody ever heard of "Follow to join" procedure? What exactly is it and can we utilize it to our benefit?
If your GC is approved before your wife can enter US and apply for I-485, then she can do "following to join" through consular processing. The apparent wisdom seems to be that the application has to be done quite quickly, but I had read in one website that there is no time limit to apply (it is possible that the law changed in that regard; you need to seek a competent lawyer's advice and check the current rules). I also read that visa numbers are not required for following to join; i.e., she can get GC even if PD retrogrades. Again, that could be a outdated law, or perhaps that wording was for the "following to join" procedure for the spouses of US citizens. In any case, if you act quickly and properly, there is not much to worry about not being able to get your wife into US after your GC.
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supu
10-31 02:48 AM
Can anyone please tell , What is a Service Request ?
I know about infopass and the call center telephone number.
I know about infopass and the call center telephone number.
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nikh
09-19 03:07 PM
here are the details
I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD 09/07 Xfer to NSC, Pending Processing @ NSC
I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD: 09/14 AP mailed,
I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD: 09/14 EAD pending
FP Notice not yet
I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD 09/07 Xfer to NSC, Pending Processing @ NSC
I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD: 09/14 AP mailed,
I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07; CSC ND 08/31/07, LUD: 09/14 EAD pending
FP Notice not yet
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harsh
01-02 11:13 AM
Thanks Harsh..
you think it is safer to submit the last 2/3 paystubs while on H1 earlier along with the other documents we submit while filing for H1, or not even submit them.. I know the officer is at full liberty to ask whatever document he fancies at that moment and my stars at that time..
Do you think they will ask for the W2's while on H1 period..?
others too, pls share your thoughts.
I would follow the advise of your immigration attorney on this one. Sometimes they ask for pay stubs, sometimes they do not. So I would follow what your attorney advises on you. Normally USCIS will not ask for W2's. However an embassy will, when you go for stamping. They will ask for W2 and your tax returns to verify if you got paid whatever is written on your application as your salary.
you think it is safer to submit the last 2/3 paystubs while on H1 earlier along with the other documents we submit while filing for H1, or not even submit them.. I know the officer is at full liberty to ask whatever document he fancies at that moment and my stars at that time..
Do you think they will ask for the W2's while on H1 period..?
others too, pls share your thoughts.
I would follow the advise of your immigration attorney on this one. Sometimes they ask for pay stubs, sometimes they do not. So I would follow what your attorney advises on you. Normally USCIS will not ask for W2's. However an embassy will, when you go for stamping. They will ask for W2 and your tax returns to verify if you got paid whatever is written on your application as your salary.
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12-20 12:08 PM
Soon, We will get it from Immigration-Law.Com.
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DoggyStyle
07-21 11:28 PM
thank u for posting the conversation that I miss. that saves me few bucks. u have the nerve to dial in that other IVians don't
have. u r the hero. (dial-in-hero) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
have. u r the hero. (dial-in-hero) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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sayantan76
04-13 06:03 PM
I am new to this community and have been watching some other forums online, but I am glad we have one dedicated for EB immigration. Way to go Immigration Voice!!!
Now, before anyone jumps at me, I promise to contribute for IV's efforts and donate for the various projects in a couple days.
The reason I am posting this is because I saw various threads with various ideas to gain visibility and make out cause known to all. I saw thready ranging from writing to senators to sending a 1 cent check everyday to sending a voided check for a big amount. Other notable ideas include sending flowers, calling senators, FOIA campaign, writing to the Obama administration, etc. While I agree that each of these actions contribute small drops to the ocean, I honestly think we should think BIG!!
I have analyzed EB Immigration considerably and here are my thoughts -
Anti-Immigrants, especially the ones against EB Immigration feel that we take away their jobs. However our defense against that is there's aren't that many skilled immigrants for certain skill set and hence we fill that void and keep corporate America competitive. However a lot of us argue that we who are waiting in line for our potential Green Cards pay our taxes and aide by the law, etc. All valid arguments. However, that doesn't make us any different than the majority of the 90% workforce that is employed. They all pay taxes too.
I have seen other ideas being floated around where they said "Buy a house, get a green card." Now, two issues with this - How many of us potential immigrants have 250 grand to invest in a house? I don't and can perhaps pay 5-10% down payment on a house. But if I lose my job, then I will be forced to default too and that doesn't help the economy. Also, there are more than 10 million homes in foreclosure and even hypothetically, let's say we will buy a house on a mortgage at 10% down. There are, say 1 million immigrants in waiting including dependents. And we buy 500,000 homes. That is a small dent in the entire real estate economy. Won't make a significant difference. Secondly, the current mess we are in was caused by the "sub prime" mortgage loans. If you know what "sub prime" means, then you probably know the areas where these houses were purchased. Have you seen the neighborhoods or the areas where these houses are foreclosed? A majority of us won't even drive through there, leave alone buying houses there. So obviously, us buying homes is not going to solve this economic mess. If you still insist, then you perhaps need to take a class on economics 101.
OK, say why am I saying all this? Well, for one, while its great that we put our brains to work to help solve the economic crisis, since a good economy has a knock on effect on immigration, but we can't come up with ordinary ideas. These are extraordinary times and we need extraordinary ideas. We need to think out of the box. I appreciate the efforts of IV with the FOIA drive, but here's my question with that - Besides knowing how long the wait is going to be to get our GC based on the information from USCIS, what other purpose is the FOIA going to solve? Probably not much. But I do agree that having those numbers helps us in identifying where we need to focus our lobbying efforts. If we know the bottleneck is EB2-EB3 spillover, we can work on that with USCIS.
Someone mentioned in another thread where we all need to concentrate on one effort rather than be divided in multiple efforts. And I think it was suggested that we focus on visa numbers recapturing. I think its a great idea. However, please be aware that in the context of CIR, EB immigration is a small drop. And hence any lobbying to increase/recapture visa numbers need to be done with the FB immigration. EB and FB together can lobby for the recapture visa numbers project and might achieve considerable success.
If we as EB immigrants need to make our voice known, we need to take a leaf out of the President's book, from his campaign. He started a grass roots level campaign and look at where that has led him to!! So here is my suggestion for a project that will highlight our cause and lead some of the anti- EB Immigration Aholes to shut up their various holes.
I am assuming we have around 500K immigrants in waiting. Let's say there are 250K primary applicants. The goal is we try to get an email database of as many potential immigrants we can. Next we start an email campaign highlighting a story of an immigrant family or a news article against immigration or lobbying by anti immigrant groups or lack of visibility in ongoing discussions on CIR. At the bottom of each email, we have a donate button that takes the person to IV's donation page/paypal, whatever it might be. We start with a minimum of $50 and go upwards to $500. The goal is if we have atleast, say 100,000 potential immigrants to contribute a min of $50, then if my calculations are in order, that is about $5 Millions. We might have more depending on how many more people contribute and how much more than the min $50 that people contribute. But the baseline collection would be about $5 Million. OK, so what do we with that money? Well, the biggest skill set for us EB immigrants are our education. We have a minimum of a bachelors degree and have a penchant for being well educated. That is the weakness in the American education system - Education. We say thousands of high school dropouts. Thousands of college drop outs. The Obama administration has clearly said they need to invest in America's future. And hence they have a big ambitious spending on fixing the educational system. I know that as non permanent residents or citizens, we are not allowed to contribute to any politicians. However, we can donate money to the state or to a charity organization. What I suggest is we collect this money and send it to the first lady, Michelle Obama and have her send this to a non profit community project for education on our behalf. This will bring a lot of attention because we as EB immigrants are saying, we want to contribute to better the educational system if given a chance so that the future American generations don't become prey to the 21st century American competitiveness like outsourcing and H Visas and stuff.
This might seem like a small drop in the ocean, but it is definitely a bright one!! And don't tell me it can't be done. It sure can be done. There was someone who already did this at the grassroots level, and his name is Barack Obama!!!
I am willing to talk to the IV Core team to discuss if needed.
While it seems like a great initiative - lets take a step back and examine the "materiality" of the $5MM number........
1. Annual budget of a typical State Univ is upwards of $1Bn.
2. $5MM can pay for college education of say, 100 kids (only about 50 if you include living expenses)
So, what the message that would go out in media would actually read like is the following:
"100,000 green card applicants trying to buy their way to US Residency by sponsoring 100 kids' college education and/or contributing 0.2% of Ohio State University's Annual Budget"
To the average American worker who has lost his/her job or knows someone close who has - this would, in my mind, seem like a bribe........and make them anti-EB if they already were not.........
All immigrant and non-immigrant workers do their fair share for this country by paying their taxes and abiding by the laws of the land + they pay significant fees during their entire H1 and GC process- a proposal that involves them shelling out any more $$s would only create a sense that we are trying to buy our way in plus its not really fair on the applicants in any way.
Now, before anyone jumps at me, I promise to contribute for IV's efforts and donate for the various projects in a couple days.
The reason I am posting this is because I saw various threads with various ideas to gain visibility and make out cause known to all. I saw thready ranging from writing to senators to sending a 1 cent check everyday to sending a voided check for a big amount. Other notable ideas include sending flowers, calling senators, FOIA campaign, writing to the Obama administration, etc. While I agree that each of these actions contribute small drops to the ocean, I honestly think we should think BIG!!
I have analyzed EB Immigration considerably and here are my thoughts -
Anti-Immigrants, especially the ones against EB Immigration feel that we take away their jobs. However our defense against that is there's aren't that many skilled immigrants for certain skill set and hence we fill that void and keep corporate America competitive. However a lot of us argue that we who are waiting in line for our potential Green Cards pay our taxes and aide by the law, etc. All valid arguments. However, that doesn't make us any different than the majority of the 90% workforce that is employed. They all pay taxes too.
I have seen other ideas being floated around where they said "Buy a house, get a green card." Now, two issues with this - How many of us potential immigrants have 250 grand to invest in a house? I don't and can perhaps pay 5-10% down payment on a house. But if I lose my job, then I will be forced to default too and that doesn't help the economy. Also, there are more than 10 million homes in foreclosure and even hypothetically, let's say we will buy a house on a mortgage at 10% down. There are, say 1 million immigrants in waiting including dependents. And we buy 500,000 homes. That is a small dent in the entire real estate economy. Won't make a significant difference. Secondly, the current mess we are in was caused by the "sub prime" mortgage loans. If you know what "sub prime" means, then you probably know the areas where these houses were purchased. Have you seen the neighborhoods or the areas where these houses are foreclosed? A majority of us won't even drive through there, leave alone buying houses there. So obviously, us buying homes is not going to solve this economic mess. If you still insist, then you perhaps need to take a class on economics 101.
OK, say why am I saying all this? Well, for one, while its great that we put our brains to work to help solve the economic crisis, since a good economy has a knock on effect on immigration, but we can't come up with ordinary ideas. These are extraordinary times and we need extraordinary ideas. We need to think out of the box. I appreciate the efforts of IV with the FOIA drive, but here's my question with that - Besides knowing how long the wait is going to be to get our GC based on the information from USCIS, what other purpose is the FOIA going to solve? Probably not much. But I do agree that having those numbers helps us in identifying where we need to focus our lobbying efforts. If we know the bottleneck is EB2-EB3 spillover, we can work on that with USCIS.
Someone mentioned in another thread where we all need to concentrate on one effort rather than be divided in multiple efforts. And I think it was suggested that we focus on visa numbers recapturing. I think its a great idea. However, please be aware that in the context of CIR, EB immigration is a small drop. And hence any lobbying to increase/recapture visa numbers need to be done with the FB immigration. EB and FB together can lobby for the recapture visa numbers project and might achieve considerable success.
If we as EB immigrants need to make our voice known, we need to take a leaf out of the President's book, from his campaign. He started a grass roots level campaign and look at where that has led him to!! So here is my suggestion for a project that will highlight our cause and lead some of the anti- EB Immigration Aholes to shut up their various holes.
I am assuming we have around 500K immigrants in waiting. Let's say there are 250K primary applicants. The goal is we try to get an email database of as many potential immigrants we can. Next we start an email campaign highlighting a story of an immigrant family or a news article against immigration or lobbying by anti immigrant groups or lack of visibility in ongoing discussions on CIR. At the bottom of each email, we have a donate button that takes the person to IV's donation page/paypal, whatever it might be. We start with a minimum of $50 and go upwards to $500. The goal is if we have atleast, say 100,000 potential immigrants to contribute a min of $50, then if my calculations are in order, that is about $5 Millions. We might have more depending on how many more people contribute and how much more than the min $50 that people contribute. But the baseline collection would be about $5 Million. OK, so what do we with that money? Well, the biggest skill set for us EB immigrants are our education. We have a minimum of a bachelors degree and have a penchant for being well educated. That is the weakness in the American education system - Education. We say thousands of high school dropouts. Thousands of college drop outs. The Obama administration has clearly said they need to invest in America's future. And hence they have a big ambitious spending on fixing the educational system. I know that as non permanent residents or citizens, we are not allowed to contribute to any politicians. However, we can donate money to the state or to a charity organization. What I suggest is we collect this money and send it to the first lady, Michelle Obama and have her send this to a non profit community project for education on our behalf. This will bring a lot of attention because we as EB immigrants are saying, we want to contribute to better the educational system if given a chance so that the future American generations don't become prey to the 21st century American competitiveness like outsourcing and H Visas and stuff.
This might seem like a small drop in the ocean, but it is definitely a bright one!! And don't tell me it can't be done. It sure can be done. There was someone who already did this at the grassroots level, and his name is Barack Obama!!!
I am willing to talk to the IV Core team to discuss if needed.
While it seems like a great initiative - lets take a step back and examine the "materiality" of the $5MM number........
1. Annual budget of a typical State Univ is upwards of $1Bn.
2. $5MM can pay for college education of say, 100 kids (only about 50 if you include living expenses)
So, what the message that would go out in media would actually read like is the following:
"100,000 green card applicants trying to buy their way to US Residency by sponsoring 100 kids' college education and/or contributing 0.2% of Ohio State University's Annual Budget"
To the average American worker who has lost his/her job or knows someone close who has - this would, in my mind, seem like a bribe........and make them anti-EB if they already were not.........
All immigrant and non-immigrant workers do their fair share for this country by paying their taxes and abiding by the laws of the land + they pay significant fees during their entire H1 and GC process- a proposal that involves them shelling out any more $$s would only create a sense that we are trying to buy our way in plus its not really fair on the applicants in any way.
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acecupid
06-29 12:22 AM
This thread makes no sense... everyone is out to sell each other out. Why would anyone want to wait. Besides, do you think 100% of applicants are on IV and agree to file late? Utter nonsense... People who have their applications ready should apply on July 1st.:D
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Almond
07-17 11:24 AM
I think a employee of immigration service center should get $100 bonus for completing one application. This will definitely improve their productivity.
And with the new fee increases, that should be nooo problem right? :o
And with the new fee increases, that should be nooo problem right? :o
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prioritydate
08-09 11:28 PM
Does anyone have an LUD on 04/20/2008?
nk2006
12-01 11:27 AM
6) You can not invest in Educational investments schemes ( Theoratically you can invest and they will take your money gladly) as those are ONE-WAY money, once gone you can not take out, only your children can take out. Now imagine you are on H1.. Invetsed money in eduction schemes for your children. Down the road after 10 years suddenly finding yourself in limbo you go back to your country... money is stuck.. ( I do not have full scale study of workarounds..Someone more elite on this subject can put mor light on this)
You can actually use the educational investment money outside USA also (atleast in some schemes). Also its not completely shut out - if you prefer to take the money outside of 529plans for other than educational purposes - you can do that but have to pay penalty just like early cash out of 401k.
Yes all these add to extra hassles a non-immigrant has to go thru even for as simple thing as saving money for kids education.
You can actually use the educational investment money outside USA also (atleast in some schemes). Also its not completely shut out - if you prefer to take the money outside of 529plans for other than educational purposes - you can do that but have to pay penalty just like early cash out of 401k.
Yes all these add to extra hassles a non-immigrant has to go thru even for as simple thing as saving money for kids education.
ramus
05-29 05:16 PM
You too good. I wish everybody does same.
Thank you so much..
You have atleast God to keep faith in. What about non-beleivers like me?
I am just keeping faith IV though.
fyi --
ramus and tikka ,just in case you may jump in, I already sent web faxes and mailed and ...
Thank you so much..
You have atleast God to keep faith in. What about non-beleivers like me?
I am just keeping faith IV though.
fyi --
ramus and tikka ,just in case you may jump in, I already sent web faxes and mailed and ...
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